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“We make divisions all the time between the visible world and the invisible world and it’s as if the invisible world is the poor relation and the visible world is ultimate ground and reality. The more I’ve been thinking about this, the more it seems to me, actually, is that the visible world is the first shoreline of the invisible world. It’s the same way, I believe, between the body and the soul. That actually the body is in the soul - not just the soul within the body. Somehow, the poignancy of being a human being is that you are the place where the invisible becomes visible. ”
-John O’Donohue (in conversation with Krista Tippett in “On Being” podcast #1,031)